Need for an organising principle/objective/ some theme to focus on which will begin to integrate the myriad thoughts, quotes, examples we have assembled It may be the Super ego/ internal judge which inhibits autonomy and independence. Swirldom different to RPO. It is non interactive, rather not in the way of RPO. Is there an attraction about one’s swirl, self defeating though it is? eg wallowing in self pity does offer itself as a way to fill in the time Or do swirlees always wish to escape? R Need to create a space between feelings and negative self judgement eg inside swirl worthless is a feeling, outside swirl it can be seen as a judgement, an attribution , a thought. Just that. R So, swirlees mostly feel imprisoned with no way out. Yet counterintuitively there is a fear of pausing, of slowing down, perhaps because it might “open up the nerve ends” Is there always an element of self hatred in the swirl and slowing down makes it more ...